After reading Mosiah ch7 and starting 8 - a question arose about the validity of the truths spoken about seers and the use of a Urim and Thummim. James 1:5-10 came to mind and I read James 1:1-10 until I understood it all with the help of God and patience. then I wrote this; "the wavering man receiveth nothing from God; James 1 is rockin my world today. rejoice when you are brought low for the blessings more patience will bring, and rejoice when you are exhalted. Pray when you don't know, and be willing to act in faith or you will not get the blessing. Good luck growing more faith =) apparently God grants the gift of faith and all His doings are by the power of faith, so asking in faith for more faith is a very win/win prayer considering God's love for us."
Then I looked in the topical guide and found Old Testament references that confirm soundly the use Joseph Smith claims to have used to see into the past and record the events that were abridged in the Book of Mormon, right down to them being on a breastplate, more still - the way they were using a Urim and Thummim in the Bible seems contextually sound with the way Limhi and Ammon were planning to get the record of the Jaredites translated by King Mosiah; 1 Sam 28:6 and Ezra 2:63 were most helpful. A cool find while doing the research was when I read ezra furthur back in the chapter and found that men were denied the priesthood because they couldn't prove that their lineage was through Israel.
59 And these were they which went up from Tel-melah, Tel-harsa, Cherub, Addan, and Immer: but they could not ashew their father’s house, and their seed, whether they were of Israel:
60 The children of Delaiah, the children of Tobiah, the children of Nekoda, six hundred fifty and two.
61 ¶And of the achildren of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name:
62 These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.
63 And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most aholy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim and with Thummim.
Very cool to know that the disbursement of the priesthood power was occurring long ago and that the process was a selective process to those in the tribes of Israel, God is the same, yesterday, today and forever, (In the sense that in this instance we still use priesthood power to act in His name and organize His kingdom today.)
These days we only give the priesthood to those who are made worthy by being accepted or adopted into the house of Israel by making covenants at baptism, and then keeping those associated covenants and coming of age. We would not extend the priesthood to those not of our faith, or those with no record of being of our faith. They have not made covenants and may not even understand the point of the preisthood. That's like going to McDonalds and being made manager when you have never worked there, signed no contract, and don't know any of their practices; they wouldn't do it, and it wouldnt benefit anyone anyway.
59 And these were they which went up from Tel-melah, Tel-harsa, Cherub, Addan, and Immer: but they could not ashew their father’s house, and their seed, whether they were of Israel:
60 The children of Delaiah, the children of Tobiah, the children of Nekoda, six hundred fifty and two.
61 ¶And of the achildren of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name:
62 These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.
63 And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most aholy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim and with Thummim.
Very cool to know that the disbursement of the priesthood power was occurring long ago and that the process was a selective process to those in the tribes of Israel, God is the same, yesterday, today and forever, (In the sense that in this instance we still use priesthood power to act in His name and organize His kingdom today.)
These days we only give the priesthood to those who are made worthy by being accepted or adopted into the house of Israel by making covenants at baptism, and then keeping those associated covenants and coming of age. We would not extend the priesthood to those not of our faith, or those with no record of being of our faith. They have not made covenants and may not even understand the point of the preisthood. That's like going to McDonalds and being made manager when you have never worked there, signed no contract, and don't know any of their practices; they wouldn't do it, and it wouldnt benefit anyone anyway.